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Anon 01/16/2023 (Mon) 07:47:53 ID:44b536 No. 2764
mah niBBa कर्ण dindu nuffin
कर्ण is the Blackpill protagonist of Mahabharat
Indra plotted against him, how do Indrafags explain this?
>>2766 And eklavya too. Honestly everything is blackpill about mahabharata. Pandavas only won because they had a literal god by their side who lied and did so many chhal/kapat to make sure pandavas win.
>>2767 So did Krishna, Dronacharya and even that whore Draupadi, Karna should be the actual protagonist of Mahabharata
>>2768 >>2766 Br00tal
>>2769 Never forget that pandavas had audicity to get mad that their whore wife whom they shared among them like an object got treated by object. And that karana qas stripped of his good deeds abd damned eternel hell because he called a whore a whore and was too nice.
>>2764 जब नाश किशी पे छाता है पहले विवेक खो जाता है Karna only followed his dharma
>>2769 This is what happens when you are an accidental son who gets abandoned by his own mother.
>>2769 Mahabharat is the actual blackpill, it tells you that you can never win if you're raised low caste, even if how high caste kshatriya you may be
>>2773 The same mother who fucked a god before marriage and then panicked that she would bd called a whore
>the most ground worthy lundian epic is basically the blackpill epitomised
>>2774 That's not actually true, कर्ण achieved all material wealth, even became a king, however he couldn't get the his deserved status, he himself was Blackpilled, Krishna told him about his birth and his true identity, even asked him to claim his right as heir but he declined.
I kneel before the great Mahabharata, just think 2500 years ago someone had the audacity to create the ultimate blackpill about women, politics and race. This discussions has opened new horizons in my understanding. Even god don't help people who are not blackpilled
>>2777 At what point?
>>2764 >>2765 Karna is a tragic hero
>>2779 When Krishna was trying to be diplomatic, he told him that if he did so, the war would stop, he even said Draupdi would marry him, but कर्ण declined > कर्ण replies that though he was born from Kunti, it was the wife of a charioteer "Radha who gave him love and sustenance", and that makes her his real mother. Similarly, it is from the love and affection and "not scripture" that he knows Adhiratha to be his real father. He is already married, says Karna, he has two sons and now grandsons, all because his father Adhiratha helped him settle into his married life. What matters most in life are the "bonds of love", according to Karna, and not power over the world. He shall betray no one, remain loyal to those who love him, including his friend Duryodhana, with whom he has been in allegiance for thirteen years. It is not "blood ties" that matter, but how someone treats you over a period of time that does. He made a promise to Duryodhana and he will keep it. It is his duty to fight Arjuna.
>>2764 The sheer fact that a character like Karna exists in Mahabharata is a huge blackpill for hindus. Everything good he did is trivialized by Krishna and gods and all his bad deeds magnified to justify his fate. You can follow dharma as much to your capabilities but one mistake fucks you up/your previous life's karma fucks you up.
>>2771 >>2769 Pandvas were simp cucks
>>2782 Krishna btfod. Karna did the right decision. It would have been pathetic and cowardly of him to join pandavas for throne .
>>2776 Indeed >>2783
>>2783 This is it, everything was naturally and rightfully his was taken away from him, he didn't even get the love of his owns mother, everyone abandoned him except few people. It is this injustice that fueled his hatred and frustration, he always had to prove himself, even when he was studying under Drona, his insecurity forced him berate and challenge the pandavas. Duryodhana although helped him, used him for his own gains. The real tragedy of his life was absence of people that truly loved him and had his back, and despite all this, he never abandoned his dharma.
>>2788 Karna was a great danveer, there are regional stories of how he was very non materialistic. He followed all his dharmas, as a son, as a friend, as a ruler, as a kshatriya, and still got screwed over. He was abandoned right after his birth,couldn't even drink his mother's milk(i think he even mentions this to Krishna). The sheer fact that the true heir of Hastinapur undergoes this fate is a spit on face of hindu gods and karmic system, as if karna was a critique of the gods
>>2782 Yea but this what already after Krishna purposely sabotaged his efforts to marry Draupadi during her Swamavara, which caused Karna and Dronacharya to storm off and led to her marrying Arjun (and then eventually all five of them due to his mother's wish). "All the suitors tried their best but failed. Then came Karna to try his fate. Sri Krishna became alert and signalled Draupadi to raise an objection. Draupadi intervened "Wait, O noble one! I will garland only the royal one and not a SUT-PUTRA" BR00TAL BLACKPILL, the only real bad character in this sorry was Duryodhana and Shakuni tbh
>>2789 True, but कर्ण was a demon named Dambhodbhava in his previous life, thus in a way, everything he went through was atonement.
>>2778 There is a saying in mahabharata itself by Ved Vyas, that if some truth about human society exists, it is mahabharata, and if it exists in mahabharata then it is a truth for humanity. The foresight of the writer of mahabharata is genius beyond par,probably the greatest epic ever written. Every single character, every single incident in mahabharata is a deep commentary on humanity
>>2791 So his efforts in his current birth are all pointless! Also his crime was stealing a Brahmin's cow kek, if anything this just signals to lower castes to not even bother being good because your current life is pointless, the God's will sabotage you throughout
>>2790 Even shakuni was avenging the humiliation of his father and brothers who were enslaved by Kurus for protesting gandhari being married to a blind Kuru. Duryodhana was being mislead by his uncle. Nobody in mahabharata was a comic cartoon big bad villain like ravana, they all had justifiable motives
>>2790 There are 2 different variations of this story actually. Also According to Manu Smriti (10.11.17), the sūta caste are children of a Kshatriya father and a Brahmin mother. > "In brahmin women, suta caste is born out of pratilomata marriage by kshatriyas. Elephant keeping and charioteer is their livelihood, they has no right in Vaishyadharma. It is written in "Jati Vivek" that they can do all duties of Kshatriyas, but it is a little less than the Kshatriya caste. The two main occupations of Sūtas as per epic Mahābhārata were story telling and chariot-driving.
>>2793 >So his efforts in his current birth are all pointless! Yes, that is the entire point of prarabdha karma and what jyotishi seeks to do, ie track your prarabdha karma and its influence in life. See >>2783 . You can do everything right in life but your past life karma will come and destroy you. Even puri shankaracharya agrees with this in his videos. Hindu shastras try to sugarcoat this naked truth
>>2794 Yeah, this is because Mahabharat happened in Dvapar Yuga it isn't like Ramayana. > All people in the Dvapara Yuga are desirous of achievement of the scriptural dharma that is prescribed to each class, valiant, courageous and competitive by nature and are engaged only in penance and charity. They are kingly and pleasure-seeking. In this era, the divine intellect ceases to exist, and it is therefore seldom that anyone is wholly truthful. As a result of this life of deceit, people are plagued by ailments, diseases and various types of desires.
>>2793 His crime was being a demon in his past life. Also Karna wasn't low caste, nor were his adoptive parents, see this>>2795
>>2782 Ah, hey bro im gonna destroy your life but ols can you forget about it and stop this war which i want really bad to happen after you promised your friend to fight with his side?
>>2798 Imagine doing everything right in your life but still got fucked up worst because youre some demon in your past life you dont even know about. How much brutal it dan get?
>>2799 "Just join your biggest rival and people who have mocked you and berated you throughout life over your lifelong friend in a war to death just for the throne and chance to sleep with this stacy woman, and also because I Vishnu am saying it" It takes immense honour and rooting in your own beliefs to not join pandavas in that situation as karna.
>>2796 Isnt it brutal and shitty af?
>>2790 Duryodhan did what he should with an object, shakuni was trying to get his revenge. I dont see anything wring here.
>>2802 It is. A huge part of the philosophical/religious portion of puranas is dedicated to coping with this past life karma shit and citing examples of people who got fucked up and how to overcome it. As if the sages knew it is somewhat flawed /br00tal
>>2801 Chance to sleep with this whore who already slept wuth 5 men, the men who put her on stake like the object she is*
>>2804 How about just fuck this karma bullshit and do what you want? If im going to get punished because of my past life, which i dont even know about i would rather enjoy life.
>>2803 I'm talking about Duryodhana setting the building with the Pandavas and Kunti on fire in order to kill them so that they don't end up becoming too powerful and take over Hastinapur
>>2764 >The Karna-Arjuna story has parallels in the Vedic literature and may have emerged from these more ancient themes. According to McGrath, the Vedic mythology is loaded with the legendary and symbolism-filled conflict between Surya (sun) and Indra (clouds, thunder, rain).[116] Indra cripples Surya in the Vedic mythology by detaching his wheel, while Arjuna kills Karna while he tries to fix the wheel that is stuck in the ground.[117][118] As another example of parallels, Surya too has a birth mother (Night) who abandons him in the Vedic texts and he too considers his adoptive mother (Dawn) who raises him to his bright self as the true mother just like Karna.[117] This idea was first discussed by the philologist Georges Dumézil, who remarked that similar mythology and details are found in other ancient Indo-European stories.[119][120] Honestly, mahabharata is a literary masterpiece. I kneel.
Rabindranath Tagore wrote a poem known as "Karna Kunti Sangbad" bases on an exchange between karna and kunti before the war where karna voices his grievances. Good read
>>2785 lol, krishna was blackpilled on darwinian nature of life & acted in accordance to it, while karna was greypilled who didn't wish to accept deterministic nature of life
>>2810 Krishna was self righteous arrogant who got away by being a god with furure foresight kek. Karna critiqued the karma system
>>2764 is something wrong with my eyes or is the third pic a vagina filled with semen?
>>2812 Watch less 2D porn
>>2812 Reduce watching porn lodu
>>2814 >>2813 i haven't watched any porno for more than an year.
>>2815 You are lying
>>2816 no, but the vagina like pic OP had posted looks a little like this >>404255
>>2815 Achha
Goated thread I kneel before Mahabharat although I’m an atheist.
Archive thread
>>2802 It is what it is gaandu, get over it >>2806 You can choose yolo and destroy your life more or can work on slowly collecting good karma. Contrary to popular believe, bad karma doesn't automatically births in poor family, struggling for life, but you can be born in wealthiest of families and bad karma will come fucking you up at the most important moments of your life.
Karna is what you call a "flying monkey". No, I'm not talking about Hanuman. A flying monkey is someone who does the deed of a narcissist [Duryodhana]. In the eyes of a flying monkey, the narcissist is ALWAYS the good guy, and they casually turn a blind eye to the misdeeds and bad behaviors they do. They also never miss a chance to sing praise to the narcissist they hang around. It's quite ironical that Karna and Sun are interconnected, because a flying monkey is like a moon that generates light only by reflecting it from the narcissist. Without the narcissist, a flying monkey is nothing.
>>2766 Kek. >>2767 Because Lord Indra dislikes Surya; so it would naturally be upon the son of Surya, who wished for the death of Indra's own son. Besides, Karna was given the Vasavi Shakti which couldn't be countered. >>2768 Ekalavya was a cannibal. Also, #KrishnaDidNothingWrong. >>2769 He is an anti-hero. >>2771 He was doomed to hell for choosing not to prevent the Kurukshetra War, which killed millions. >>2774 Sutas are a high caste. >>2782 >>2785 Kek, I love how no one realises that he could've taken up the offer of being the Emperor of the Kurus, and then abdicate or hand over the throne to Duryodhana, like how King Harischandra handed over Kosala to Vishwamitra, to which the Pandavas and even Lord Krishna himself, would not object. The mere fact that he did not do this, which could have fulfilled Duryodhana's desire for the throne showcases the fact that Karna wanted the war, solely for him to slay Arjuna on a fair ground. >>2784 Maybe Nakula and Sahadeva were. >>2788 Only decent take in this thread >>2789 Yet his incessant enmity to Arjuna led to his and his friend's Downfall, and plunged the subcontinent into a devastating war. >>2790 That's only in the Northern Recession. The southern one has him lose because the tip of the bow hit his head, and he missed the shot. >>2824 This is what he essentially became, in the grand picture.
>>2823 I would rather say fuck off to karma loda lassan bs.
>>2824 Get off. You've been surfing too much reddit. Your own insecurity is showing with "narcissist" spam. Also a kshatriya was supposed to be a type of narcissist and have pride in himself. How was arjun and pandavas were not flying monkey for following and praising every shit yudhishtir did? How is everyone wasnt flying mobkey because they always paraised a narcissist god?
>>2825 > Kek, I love how no one realises that he could've taken up the offer of being the Emperor of the Kurus, and then abdicate or hand over the throne to Duryodhana, like how King Harischandra handed over Kosala to Vishwamitra, to which the Pandavas and even Lord Krishna himself, would not object Ah yes, hey bro, "Just join your biggest rival and people who have mocked you and berated you throughout life over your lifelong friend in a war to death just for the throne and chance to sleep with this stacy woman, and also because I Vishnu am saying it". Also Duryodhana was a kashtriya to his heart he wouldve not accepted it. Stop blaming war on karna when it was Krishna who wanted the war. Krishna did nothing but just mocked the hell out of karna's poor tragedy. Why didnt he told him before? Huh? The main reason of downfall was that he was just unlucky. He was tragic. Only flying monkey is arjun.
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>>2827 >How was arjun and pandavas were not flying monkey for following and praising every shit yudhishtir did? Yes, I definitely think so. Yudhistir lies on the other spectrum of narcissism. He's a "covert narcissist". A more introverted version of narcissism. He lacks the grandiosity that Duryodhana displays, but still is concerned about how he presents himself to everyone around him. He is ready to sacrifice not just himself but his whole brothers and their wife if it means that he is "right". There's no one that's purely good in there any way, even Krishna.
>>2828 Where did I say he would join them? I am merely pointing out that he could've simply handed the throne over, which is completely legitimate. Secondly, Duryodhana would have ABSOLUTELY accepted it, considering that he could simply banish the Pandavas and deprive them of their lands legally, since it would've passed to him, via Karna. Further, if he wants they could simply kill the Pandavas afterwards, if he wants, since he showed absolutely no restraint in doing so before (like the House of Lac that was burned down, with the hopes of killing them in their sleep). Why on Earth would Karna refuse this paragon-like offer, which grants all which he strived for? It's unlikely that he is genuinely retarded, and thus it has to do with his innate ego, and his desire to kill Arjuna. Krishna didn't tell Karna his identity before, as he felt that it should be Kunti who should reveal it to him, as it is her secret to begin with. Karna, in the end of the day, sided with the literal incarnation of Pischacha Kali, and did evil shit like proclaiming that he would sell his wives, sons and servants to the ENEMY soldiers, if they would tell them where Arjuna is located on the battlefield (https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08038.htm) >>2827 Kshatriyas with narcissistic pride have always fallen, be it those who were "good" like Chakravarti Mandhāta and those who were tyrannical like Ravana. Yudhishtira learned from his mistakes and went on to become Greatest King and (only) Chakravarti of the Dvapara Yuga, with his post-war reign being almost as prosperous as the times of Rama. Duryodhana and his lackey only sunk deeper into their vices and malice. That's why they have lost.
>>2830 >Further, if he wants they could simply kill the Pandavas afterwards, if he wants, since he showed absolutely no restraint in doing so before >Why on Earth would Karna refuse this paragon-like offer, which grants all which he strived for? It's unlikely that he is genuinely retarded, and thus it has to do with his innate ego, and his desire to kill Arjuna These two sentences doesn't match up. Just as you said he could've killed them, then why didnt he? Why? Imagine somebody telling you your 10yr old gf wants you on the day of your marriage. >Krishna didn't tell Karna his identity before, as he felt that it should be Kunti who should reveal it to him, as it is her secret to begin with. Then he should've not told him at all. No sane person wouldve changed his position, not somebody as dharmic and friendship centered person like karna. But he had to mock him, he had to tell him just how pathetic life he has lived just because his whore mother didnt wanted others to know shes such a whore. Ah, a promiscuous women again, is The problem . >Karna, in the end of the day, sided with the literal incarnation of Pischacha Kali, and did evil shit like proclaiming that he would sell his wives, sons and servants to the ENEMY soldiers, if they would tell them where Arjuna is located on the battlefield Doesnt sound much different than what yudhishthir did. But atleast he wasnt gambling. >Yudhishtira learned from his mistakes and went on to become Greatest King Yeah, the greatest king who put his wife and brothers on stake.
>>2829 Is narcissism necessarily a bad thing?
>>2832 There is no good or bad. Genfhis khan slaughtered millions raped thousands and died in a comfort of a king. And nobody cares.
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>>2830 >That's why they have lost. I haven't read the story completely, but didn't they lose because Krishna and Pandavas cheated a lot initially which caused lot of rule breaks? Had they fought fair and square, I think the Pandavas would've lost. >>2832 It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's only a problem if it's taken to pathological extremes and causes relationship problems that affect everyone around the person. If people call someone a narcissist, they only usually refer to malignant narcissist, a sub-type of narcissism. Everyone need a specific level of narcissism to survive in society or else some will just take advantage of you. Personally, I think bad in case of Duryodhana and Yudhistir.
>>2834 They didn't fight fairly because they believed Kauravas conspired against them. The lac house was a watershed event and taking away Indraprastha was even a bigger blow
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>>2764 don't go by embellished characters for the sake of awards, don't care how well written and "stooodied" the book is. it's no different than reimagining ravan as the hero. karna was a gandu extraordinaire and that's that.
>>2834 I dont regret anything i have done. I have empathy and im emotional af sometimes i could cry watching shows and movies, but i cant connect to the sense that they could hurt me mentally. What type of narcissist i am?
>>2825 Lmao Vishnu orchestrated the war by promising blood of millions of valiant kshatriyas to bhumi. Karna did his duty. Muh could have prevented war is a joke. Duryodhana would have still gone forward with war, blood would be shed and karna would have spit on his legacy and kshatriya honour. When rajputs fight to death it is great kshatriya honour but when karna chooses it it is cuckoldry? >giving throne to duryodhana after becoming king Are you serious fashy? Would a kshatriya like duryodhan accept such cuckoldry lmfao Also >flying monkey Applies to pandavas as well. Kek at being bet in a game of dice.
>>2830 >It's unlikely that he is genuinely retarded, and thus it has to do with his innate ego, and his desire to kill Arjuna. You are grasping on straws. Krishna comes to him days before the war, when all preparations had made. KRISHNA and PANDAVAS went forward with war,gathering allies. Krishna involved his own Yadava Narayani Army in the war. It is ridiculous to even go to someone days before war to switch sides
>>2830 >did evil shit like proclaiming that he would sell his wives, sons and servants to the ENEMY soldiers, if they would tell them where Arjuna is located on the battlefield 100% more honourable than Yudhishthir literally gambling away his wife and brothers for fucking gambling addiction kek.
suggest me the best version of mahabharat in hindi to read
>>2841 BORI
>>2764 Handoos arguing over a mythical literature which has a story worse than a B grade bollywood film. Never change handoos
>>2843 They don't have anything other than made up history yaar. t. Muzzchad
>>2843 Ok I will not change 😌
>>2844 >"muzzchad" Teri behen aur maa ke saath asifa wala treatment kardunga, may the endian army continue to rape and murder innocent muslims in kashmir, death to all mullas
>>2842 it is not available in hindi, only in sanskrit and english
>>2846 Lundian urmy is pro-hindu. Join us bro. We will rape all heendu rendi to death together.
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>>2843 >story worse than a B grade bollywood film accha
>>2844 Your history starts when your poor ancestors got raped/beaten into conversion, it isn't your history anyway. >>2843 It is real history, written as a poem, all the places described are real, all the dates (Astrological postions of stars and planets) are real. It is beyond your aukat.
>>2850 >It is real history Holy copeloli. Let me guess, you believe that Ganesh, a fucking human with an elephant head wrote it.
Lundian chooslims kanging about pisslam are worse than Kneegrow we wuzzers, a vast majority of them (60%+ got converted during reign of Aurangzeb). And their "religion" and everything associated with it absolutely gutter tier, smells of illiteracy.
>>2851 That Ganesha part was added a lot later, when Mahabharat happened, Ganesha wasnt even a God.
>>2844 >>2848 >>2851 >abdool too low iq to understand what is historical drama/exaggeration/iconography
>>2853 >i-i-it was added later bro. Just believe me bro >>2854 Stop lying you filthy gentile.
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>>2853 Ganesh ki maa chodo
>>2831 >These two sentences doesn't match up. Just as you said he could've killed them, then why didnt he? Why? Imagine somebody telling you your 10yr old gf wants you on the day of your marriage. Read the previous statement deer 🦌 >>Karna wanted the war, solely for him to slay Arjuna on a fair ground. >Then he should've not told him at all. No sane person wouldve changed his position, not somebody as dharmic and friendship centered person like karna. Well he tried, maybe because he saw a slimmer of awareness in him, but it clearly did not matter. He was too far gone. >But he had to mock him, he had to tell him just how pathetic life he has lived just because his whore mother didnt wanted others to know shes such a whore Krishna didn't do much, but told him to stop being a whiny bitch and do the right thing. However, neurotic Karna allowed 4,000,000+ Widows, Childless mothers and Baap-less kids to pop up. >>2840 >Doesnt sound much different than what yudhishthir did. But atleast he wasnt gambling. Well he did grow up during the 13 Years of Exile, rather than being a neurotic autist. >Yeah, the greatest king who put his wife and brothers on stake. Ad-homeniums don't matter, but it could be relatable to how Karna sold his wives and children to his enemies.
>>2834 >Krishna and Pandavas cheated a lot initially which caused lot of rule breaks? You mean like; 1. No Women shall be used in war (Contestable whether if broken by Pandavas - Shikhandi got a functioning Dick from a Yakshasa and sired kids) 2. No one shall fight after midnight (Kauravas broke it, thinking that Jayadhartha's death after a solar eclipse is somehow a foul, lol) 3. Multiple warriors must not attack a single warrior. (Broken notably by Kauravas, when Abhimanyu was slain). 4. Two warriors may duel, or engage in prolonged personal combat, only if they carry the same weapons and they are on the same mount (no mount, a horse, an elephant, or a chariot). (Broken several times, by both sides). 5. No warrior may kill or injure a warrior who has surrendered. (Violated when Satyaki slew an unarmed Burishravas). 6. One who surrenders becomes a prisoner of war and will then be subject to the protections of a prisoner of war. (There were no prisoners of war taken, in the Kurukshetra War). 7. No warrior may kill or injure an unarmed warrior. (Popularly attributed to Pandavas, when Arjuna slew Karna. However the Vyasa and Bori editions both show Karna continuing to fight while trying to recover the Chariot wheel, hence no violation). 8. No warrior may kill or injure an unconscious warrior. (Broken by Karauva side first, as Abhimanyu was killed after he fell to fatigue). 9. No warrior may kill or injure a person or animal not taking part in the war. (Broken several times when warriors slew horses of their enemies). 10. No warrior may kill or injure a warrior whose back is turned away. (Kaurava violation - Shakuni broke that rule). 11. No warrior shall strike below the waist (Violated by Pandavas - Duryodhana's demise) Can you tell me with a straight face that the Pandavas were cheaters, when their only legitimate violation (minus Satyaki, and Drona, who was killed in a similar way as Abhimanyu) was that done to Duryodhana, and that too to end the war which had a few thousand left after the initial battles? >Had they fought fair and square, I think the Pandavas would've lost. Arjuna killed 7 Akshauhinis within the span of 13 Days according to Duryodhana himself, while Karna managed only 2. It's safe to bet that a literal Atimaharathi Warrior (Arjuna); who is in league with Avatars in terms of progress, aided by literally God himself could solo the war.
>>2771 he got heaven acshually after brief time in hell if you read MB
>>2795 adhiratha was actually a former exiled price of anga and direct descendent of king romapada of ramayana. someone earlier in his line had married a brahmin afaik so they became sutas but still ruled for few generations before banishment.
>>2841 gita press, don't fall for CE bs >>2847 there is a hindi translations of bori by satwalekar
itt incelbhangjs discuss MB after watchign tv serials and without reading a single page of any edition
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>>2837 >I dont regret anything i have done. Have you ever said sorry to someone genuinely? >I have empathy Everyone has empathy. In some people, it's "cold". For example, this is the kind of empathy, policemen or thugs beat you up while you cry in pain asking them to please stop beating you up. They know and understand that you are suffering, but that doesn't prevent them from stopping. >What type of narcissist i am? I can't diagnose you, lol. In the image I posted above: Duryodhana: Overt - Sub-type 1: Classic - it's easy to identify his traits and connect it to narcissism. Sub-type 2: Somatic - he gave importance to his physique. Sub-type 3: Sadistic - towards his enemies Yudhisthir - Covert - Sub-type 1: Communal - too much of a do-gooder Sub-type 2: Cerebral Sub-type 3: Inverted The problem here is that narcissism shapeshifts to fit circumstances so it's not possible to say what type you are. You can be anything. What really matters is that constant supply of admiration. It doesn't matter how someone gets it, and it's not possible to use the same means ALWAYS to get that supply. >>2858 It's either rule breaks, or Krishna trying to find loop holes in these rules. - Stealing this from quora: Lord Krishna “cheated” many times in Mahabharata – some notable ones are: 1. Using Shikhandi to kill Bhishma 2. Spreading a lie about Ashwathama’s death to kill Guru Drona 3. Having Bhima kill Duryodhana by breaking the rules 4. Having Arjuna kill Karna when his chariot was stuck, he was without weapons and had lost memories of his archery skills 5. Hiding the sun to trick everyone into believing the war day had ended to kill Jayadratha 6. Having Bhima seek help from Ghatotkacha so that Karna uses his divine Indra weapon on Ghatotkacha instead of Arjuna 7. Forcing the chariot into the ground to help Arjuna dodge Karna’s Takshaknaag arrow 8. Having Subhadra abduct Arjuna to prevent Dwarka from siding with Kauravas and also help Indraprastha gain independence - I guess when it came to 1 on 1 battles, or display of strength, the Pandavas were stronger than the Kauravas, but Kauravas were stronger in terms of other talents that sided with them like Karna and Bhishma, and also head count.
>>2868 too hot yaara
>>2864 Do you have a pdf by any chance ?
>>2878 which one do you want?

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