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gita BTFO Anon 03/16/2023 (Thu) 12:42:10 ID:c3c1bc No. 3647
>In Chapter 4, Verse 24, Lord Krishna says that he is the creator of the four castes (varnas) based on their qualities and actions. However, in Chapter 18, Verse 41, he says that the division of the castes is based on the individual's qualities and actions and not birth. >In Chapter 5, Verse 5, Lord Krishna says that the renunciation of actions is superior to the yoga of actions. However, in Chapter 18, Verse 7, he says that the yoga of actions is superior to the renunciation of actions. >In Chapter 18, Verse 66, Lord Krishna asks Arjuna to abandon all forms of religion and surrender to him alone for protection. However, in Chapter 7, Verse 21, he says that those who worship other deities also worship him, but with less knowledge. >In Chapter 2, Verse 47, Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to perform his duty without attachment to the results. However, in Chapter 3, Verse 9, he says that he created the four castes according to their actions, implying that the results of actions matter. >In Chapter 6, Verse 5, Lord Krishna says that yoga is the means to attain the Supreme. However, in Chapter 12, Verse 6, he says that those who are devoted to him with steadfast faith and single-minded devotion also attain the Supreme. >In Chapter 11, Verse 54, Arjuna asks Lord Krishna to pardon his earlier familiarity with him and to speak to him as a friend. However, in Chapter 10, Verse 12, Lord Krishna says that he speaks only to those who have devotion and who constantly practice yoga. >In Chapter 3, Verse 17, Lord Krishna says that one who rejoices only in the self and is satisfied with the self is a perfect yogi. But in Chapter 5, Verse 6, he says that one who is not attached to external objects and is satisfied within the self is a perfect sannyasi. >In Chapter 7, Verse 19, Lord Krishna says that those whose knowledge is stolen by material desires worship demigods, while in Chapter 9, Verse 23, he says that even those who worship demigods with faith ultimately worship him alone.
>>3647 >>In Chapter 4, Verse 24, Lord Krishna says that he is the creator of the four castes (varnas) based on their qualities and actions. However, in Chapter 18, Verse 41, he says that the division of the castes is based on the individual's qualities and actions and not birth. Qualities and Actions here refers to Guna (rajas, sattva and tamas) and the law of Karma. division of caste is based on birth of an individual according to his actions from previous births and being born thus he his inherent state is influenced by the mixture of gunas. >>In Chapter 5, Verse 5, Lord Krishna says that the renunciation of actions is superior to the yoga of actions. That state which is reached by the Sankhyans, the same is reached by the Yogins, i.e., the same state is attained also by those who are Karma Yogins. He alone is wise who sees that the Sankhya and the Yoga are one and the same because of their having the same result. >Chapter 18, Verse 7, he says that the yoga of actions is superior to the renunciation of actions. But the renunciation of obligatory acts is not proper. Abandonment of these through delusion is declared to be Tamasika. atleast pick the correct verse retard. and here he is talking about importance of nitya karmas for a kshatriya. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nityakarma >>Chapter 18, Verse 66, Lord Krishna asks Arjuna to abandon all forms of religion and surrender to him alone for protection. sharnagati >However, in Chapter 7, Verse 21, he says that those who worship other deities also worship him, but with less knowledge. Whatsoever form any devotee desires to worship with faith that (same) faith of his I make firm and unflinching. (7.21) what's contradictory here retard. the 18.66 is for those on path of mukti and 7.21 is about proles. >>In Chapter 2, Verse 47, Lord Krishna tells Arjuna to perform his duty without attachment to the results. However, in Chapter 3, Verse 9, he says that he created the four castes according to their actions, implying that the results of actions matter. verse 2.47 is for those wanting to escape samsara shall perform nishkamakarma and 3.9 is for those in samsara. and when did he say that result of actions don't matter in samsara lmao? >>In Chapter 6, Verse 5, Lord Krishna says that yoga is the means to attain the Supreme. However, in Chapter 12, Verse 6, he says that those who are devoted to him with steadfast faith and single-minded devotion also attain the Supreme. there can be different paths to reach the same goal but bhangi lowborn brain can't comprehend it ig. and here the yoga neither refers to the yoga exercises and nor to the yoga darshana of patanjali. >> in Chapter 10, Verse 12, Lord Krishna says that he speaks only to those who have devotion and who constantly practice yoga. Arjuna said You are Supreme Brahman, the Supreme Light, and the Supreme Sanctifier. All the seers proclaim You as the eternal, divine Person, the Primal Lord, the unborn and all-pervading. So also proclaim the divine sages Narada, Asita, Devala and Vyasa. You Yourself also proclaim this. (10.12) again. >>In Chapter 3, Verse 17, Lord Krishna says that one who rejoices only in the self and is satisfied with the self is a perfect yogi. But in Chapter 5, Verse 6, he says that one who is not attached to external objects and is satisfied within the self is a perfect sannyasi. how is that contradictory? >>In Chapter 7, Verse 19, Lord Krishna says that those whose knowledge is stolen by material desires worship demigods, the verse is 7.20 and here he derides worshipping of gods solely for material desires not worshipping of them bhangi pajeet. >while in Chapter 9, Verse 23, he says that even those who worship demigods with faith ultimately worship him alone. Even those who, being devoted to other deities and endowed with faith, worship (them), they also, O son of Kunti, worship Me alone (though) following the wrong method. For I alone am the enjoyer and also the Lord of all sacrifices; but they do not know Me in essence (in reality), and hence they fall (return to this mortal world). (9.23-24)
>>3648 Kino Fiction yaar
gita is for learned high born men, low born proles who keep doing this gotcha shall be gatekeeped just like the good ol' days. /thread
>>3649 Teri maa ka rape hoga aaj 9 baje
>>3647 >English हिन्दी में लिखो
>>3651 Do you really think God exist? And didn't wrote anything about Dinosaurs in these Fiction manuscripts? Kek.
>>3649 >>3653 >ip changed voila, a jiobhangi. what happened pajeet, you were btfoing gita na? >>3647
>>3654 >IP changed Are you sure?
>>3653 God exists. But religions and mythology are just man made. Real god is outside space and time beyond our comprehension.
>>3654 IP change can happen due to many reason we can't assume someone is a jiobhangie just like that >t. network engineer
>>3657 My ip didn't change pyaare
>>3658 >Bhagwan kahan hai re tu. Dont bother with it. Just live your life morally as much as possible till you die. Our brains made of flesh and water will never be able to comprehend the god that exists outside spacetime.
GOD IS NOT REAL!
>>3661 Prove it.
>>3662 How do I prove someone’s non existence
>>3663 Then how can you be so sure about God's non existence.
>>3665 When you cant come up with a good argument.
>>3664 God exists and god is a piece of shit who needs to be nuked
>>3664 prove god's existence
>>3668 I am an Agnostic.
>>3666 nig󠀀ger your religious texts are full of lies and retardation that's proof enough that your god doesn't exist you can cope and say there is a god but not the god of religious texts if you want but that doesn't mean shit if you claim something is true prove it
>>3670 I am an agnostic. God if he exists is outside spacetime. I dont believe we can comprehend him in this world. It is futile to try to prove or disprove his existence.
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Don't care about your opinion. Now back to your circlejerk libpoop.
>>49700 I draw the line at mocking a child's R and murder. Even the dankest people in the world dont joke about it.
>>3670 Atheists are as dumb as people with blind faith. How dafuq can you deny the possibility of god if you cant explain the origin of the universe, abstractions, concept of nothingness, self consciousness.
>>3674 >athiests are dumb Yeah, sure
>>3674 Most atheists would agree on a first cause, even someone like Hawkins agree on a first cause. They only seethe at religious nighers for projecting their own personal biases and feelings on this first cause.
>>3676 Then atheists should stop using this label and call themselves anti-religion. Atheism by definition is lack of belief in god regardless of religion.
>>3677 Anti religion would imply that we are anti- something and spend our time doind such activities. No. We just domt beleive that good things will happen with you if put some fruits in a temple.
>>3674 >>3670 >>3668 Nanhe pajeet, don't answer questions for yourself which you aren't an expert in. Since you're on this site, you aren't really an expert in anything. I don't wanna go in detail but start by reading books .For starters, read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. Then Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon by Daniel Dennett.Brief Answers to the Big Questions by Stephen Hawking. Then you can come to hard philosophy and maybe you will one day realise how embarassing your statement really is.
>>3681 >maybe if i .......
>>3681 >Since you're on this site, you aren't really an expert in anything. You arent an expert either so your comment is irrelelvant by your logic. Are you a retarded technocrat? You can discuss about things like god and religion without any formal qualification. >The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. Dawkins is a self proclaimed materialist. His arguments are limited to evolution, anti creationism. His hatred for religion was possibly influenced by childhood abuse he faced in a church. >Stephen Hawking. A scientist whose worldview is only limited to the material world. Most likely developed hatred for god after suffering from paralysis.
>>3679 You can be anti something without actively trying to stop it. I dont believe in religion and rituals either but i dont deny the possibility of god existing.
>>3683 >>3683 >Hawking is a scientist whose worldview is only limited to the material world. What world is there other than the physical world? Don't come on me full shizo mystic and not provide reasons or evidence for that.
>>3685 >What world is there other than the physical world? It is illogical to deny that something may exist outside space and time just because we dont understand it. Just like it is impossible for us to comprehend 4D.
>>3686 When tf I denied it ? You said he's a scientist of a material world which implies there is a universe other than that. You gave 0 evidence and reasons for your claim. You are giving me hard-simp sadguru vibes. Sadguru fanboys are like this too, claim stupid shit but never provide evidence for it.
>>3647 Varna is birth (BTW I am a nigga) cope as much as you can
>>3668 Do you exist if yes thats the proof of god's existence
>>3671 It is beyond and is space nd time it is everywhere everything it is neither born nor it dies it is not body not mind not skin not brain not sense organs not genitals it is the creator the destroyer and the preserver it is none other than atman it is para brahm the supreme the only one i know your small brain is not able to comprehend this but it is what it is
>>3689 We wazz wimaanz and shyte saaar You exist and that's the proof of God saaar >>3690 Okay saaar
>>3687 Retard, you want physical evidence for something that exists outside space and time? I am an Agnostic and not sure if he even exists but i am not a dumb atheist to deny his existence with certainty just because there is no evidence. Science only deals with the measurable physical world not with spirituality.
>>3691 Damn what shall i say now anon has put saar at the end of my statement anon is geniu
>>3692 For the third time. I'm not denying anything with certainity. The chances for a god existing is very less. >Something that exists outside space and time. Nothing exists outside it but let's give you the benefit of doubt. How do you know with certainity that something like this exists? And even if it does, it's still improbable that it's a monkey god like Hanu-man.
>>3694 God(one who can do anything ) why can he take form of a monkey
>>3694 >Nothing exists outside space and time. If by nothing you mean the physical world we experience through our senses and brain does not exist outside space and time you are right. Our brains are incapable of understanding anything outside the physical world for eg 4D, god,spiritual entities and consciousness. What you call nothing might be something that exists but human brain doesnt understand it as our brains only evolved to understand the material world and universe we live in. >How do you know with certainity that something like this exists? I never said i am certain about it. I have said it earlier that i am an agnostic. The belief in existence outside space and time comes from reasoning not empirical evidence. You need to reason that there could be something non physical we cant understand that existed before the material world was created. >And even if it does, it's still improbable that it's a monkey god like Hanu-man. Not talking about any particular religion or mythology here just god.

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